Saatchi television

David Symons's picture

I wonder if it is polite, allowed or even wise to admit to being tempted to enter the

http://submityourart.princesstv.com/saatchi/index.apply

Best of British???? search for a new artist?

Are you going for it?

What does it mean to artists to have an apprentice type program?
Will it inspire new artists to sell their soul and all to crack the scene?
Will it make artists feel part of the system or just alienate them further?

Did you see, whatever that program was called, that featured celebrities making artwork or the faker series that featured a painter and decorator being trained to be an artist?

Perhaps its all just Tony Hart.
Lets discuss.

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George Morris's picture

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I suppose it depends whether you are motivated to make art or to become famous. All of these apprentice / reality formats are essentially about the pursuit of celebrity... aren't they?

pmillingworth's picture

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I would hope that the elements that should point towards this being a project with serious intent are; the judges - all people worthy of genuine respect; CS himself (I can't imagine he would entertain a frivolous X Factor type production - Charles Saatchi as Simon Cowell?) and the fact that it is to be shown on BBC2, not ITV.

There can be no doubt that it will attract fame-seekers in the thousands. Those ought to be weeded out fairly quickly. The concern perhaps, is that the TV production company will gravitate towards making 'entertainment' at the expense of (in my view) the laudable aims of the project, but surely if they parade the talentless wannabes to be humiliated in the manner of the usual car-crash talent TV, everyone associated with it (specifically the judges and Charles Saatchi) will see their professional credibility smashed.

If the programme gives a foot-in-the-door to a genuine, unrepresented talent isn't that a good thing? How many practitioners can honestly say they couldn't benefit from the sort of professional coaching on offer? I wish I was able to take part, I would jump at the opportunity to work with someone like Tracey Emin and the other selectors, not to mention some of the other aspects of the 'apprenticeship'.

David is right, it may not be polite to say you are tempted to enter, but it is probably only wise not to enter if you are absolutely convinced it will end in tears.....

David Symons's picture

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pmillingworth wrote:

(specifically the judges and Charles Saatchi) will see their professional credibility smashed.

If the programme gives a foot-in-the-door to a genuine, unrepresented talent isn't that a good thing? .

It is a fantastic opportunity, and I do agree with Phil that Charles Saatchi wouldnt be involved in trash TV.?

I wonder if it will become an annual program, like the Apprentice and Big Brother. The first series of both of these programs were great, but the formula cant change and they become terrible caricatures of themselves.

Will this program have to have an element of competition to it once the artists have been selected? How else will the public remain interested?

I may have to re read the information.

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David Symons's picture

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Watched it this week, quite enjoyed it, but was very aware that all of the artists were barely in their 20's...

Ive dealt with public art commissioning and look forward to seeing how the selected artists deal with this particular subject in next weeks programme. The most important thing is to find out the potential budget allocated for each artist - because you really do get what you pay for in public art...but if its all illusionary and just dealing with the idea of the public art, it makes it much easier to do what you want. The other thing with public art is not so much the public, but the council workers and councillors feeling they should contribute to the decision making process purely basing their decisions on what they think the general public will think, especially the voting public.

What a great chance and opportunity for these artists.
What a great learning curve for the general public, discovering how artists are encouraged to think they way they think....

What do you think?

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David Symons's picture

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I really enjoyed the artists reactions to the various sites down in Hastings. I noted with interest that the artists worked in teams and that the best work was by the artists who did a tiny bit of research; they all reacted to the spaces given, they made low budget, temporary, non interactional (if there is such a word), harmless artworks; all within two weeks.

It was also interesting to watch the different personalities clash or interact together, swamping out or shrinking in.

I wondered, with disturbed interest what the Mayor of Hastings was thinking, knowing perfectly well she'd be on tv, when she woke up that morning and decided to wear that weird scarf on her head and then announce that she didnt like the art of Damien and Tracey....its more often than not people like this, with extremely narrow experience and outlooks on art, that get to decide what kind of public art the public (that they represent and therefore know) get to see in their streets. They also seem immune to any kind of art education.

Anyway, Im now trying to remember what the artists will be doing for the next installment. I know that they swop teams but am concerned that I simply cant remember what they are gonna do? What does this mean?

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